Comments on: Nokota: State horse would make ideal nickname http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/ UND fans discuss the Fighting Sioux Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:21:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Siouxman http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Siouxman Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:38:11 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-88 I originally thought there wouldn't be a logo or nickname that I could agree with, but I like Fighting Nokotas. As time goes by I am liking it more and more. Having said that, let's be sure that we cover all bases with the tribes before giving up on the current name. And, by the way, forget Wheatkings as wheat ceased to be ND's most abundant crop in 2007. Corn is now king, thanks to ethanol. There also used to be team in the area called Wheatkings. I originally thought there wouldn’t be a logo or nickname that I could agree with, but I like Fighting Nokotas. As time goes by I am liking it more and more. Having said that, let’s be sure that we cover all bases with the tribes before giving up on the current name. And, by the way, forget Wheatkings as wheat ceased to be ND’s most abundant crop in 2007. Corn is now king, thanks to ethanol. There also used to be team in the area called Wheatkings.

]]> By: scandolf http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-87 scandolf Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:34:26 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-87 If anyone is looking for a tie to the state of North Dakota, think about our most abundant crop. Then consider the old nickname WheatKings? If anyone is looking for a tie to the state of North Dakota, think about our most abundant crop. Then consider the old nickname WheatKings?

]]> By: NorthDakotaHockey http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-73 NorthDakotaHockey Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:46:33 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-73 A well-reasoned position on a damned good idea. Best one that I have heard to date, by far. This said, I ain't given up hope that the tribal elders will give the boot to the tribal leaders and common sense will prevail over the efforts of the largely unemployed zealot rabblerousers. If common sense does not prevail, I am all in, at least for now, on the Nakota name. A well-reasoned position on a damned good idea.

Best one that I have heard to date, by far. This said, I ain’t given up hope that the tribal elders will give the boot to the tribal leaders and common sense will prevail over the efforts of the largely unemployed zealot rabblerousers.

If common sense does not prevail, I am all in, at least for now, on the Nakota name.

]]> By: dj_hoime http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-72 dj_hoime Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:01:07 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-72 I cant believe we have to go along with this nickname change. I feel bad that we cant fight this! We just have to watch it go and have a empty part of us. Every time i think of it i have a knot in my stomach! It pisses me off! If anything Lets become the "Dakota's" and keep the beautiful Logo. I cant believe we have to go along with this nickname change. I feel bad that we cant fight this! We just have to watch it go and have a empty part of us. Every time i think of it i have a knot in my stomach! It pisses me off! If anything Lets become the “Dakota’s” and keep the beautiful Logo.

]]> By: Godsmack http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-71 Godsmack Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:45:36 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-71 Nokotas sounds too redundant much as "The University of North Dakota North Stars." I like the horse mascot idea (I love the Denver Broncos mascot) but the Nokota name just sounds too redundant. Nokotas sounds too redundant much as “The University of North Dakota North Stars.” I like the horse mascot idea (I love the Denver Broncos mascot) but the Nokota name just sounds too redundant.

]]> By: Souix4ever http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-70 Souix4ever Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:38:20 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-70 When I hear or read things like this. "When Both Roughrider and cavalry are reminders of the imperial forces that committed genocide on the native peoples of this region. Teddy R. was the prime example of an imperial presidency." I think that is what is wrong with this country! We already dont keep score at little leage games because we dont want to hurt anyones feelings. Get used to it everyone!! Life is hard you will get sand kicked in your face at some time you will have to pick you self off the dirt. It is great american leaders like Teddy R that taught us to do that. If we worried a little less about some name that offended a group of people and woked on fixing things that were wrong with this country it might be a better place. The NCAA should maybe work on fixing all the other things wrong with collage sports before they desroy a wonderful mascot! When I hear or read things like this.

“When Both Roughrider and cavalry are reminders of the imperial forces that committed genocide on the native peoples of this region. Teddy R. was the prime example of an imperial presidency.”

I think that is what is wrong with this country! We already dont keep score at little leage games because we dont want to hurt anyones feelings. Get used to it everyone!! Life is hard you will get sand kicked in your face at some time you will have to pick you self off the dirt. It is great american leaders like Teddy R that taught us to do that. If we worried a little less about some name that offended a group of people and woked on fixing things that were wrong with this country it might be a better place.

The NCAA should maybe work on fixing all the other things wrong with collage sports before they desroy a wonderful mascot!

]]> By: MadScout03 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-69 MadScout03 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:38:34 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-69 When I first heard of "Nokota" as a possible nickname, I didn't like it, but it is starting to grow on me. I think this quote, "The Nokota is an athletic horse known for its intelligence, independence, strength, stamina and ability to survive in harsh conditions." is a perfect reason to use the nickname. I also read in the Herald today that the name "Nokota" is not tied to anything Native American, which is good for the sole purpose of there not being any controversy surrounding the name. I'd really like to avoid any more controversy with our nickname as I am sick and tired of it. I do agree with spearman that Roughriders (being it is already used by Red River HS) and Cavalry wouldn't be a good idea. I personally think it would be inappropriate and a bit of a slap in the face. When I first heard of “Nokota” as a possible nickname, I didn’t like it, but it is starting to grow on me. I think this quote, “The Nokota is an athletic horse known for its intelligence, independence, strength, stamina and ability to survive in harsh conditions.” is a perfect reason to use the nickname. I also read in the Herald today that the name “Nokota” is not tied to anything Native American, which is good for the sole purpose of there not being any controversy surrounding the name. I’d really like to avoid any more controversy with our nickname as I am sick and tired of it.
I do agree with spearman that Roughriders (being it is already used by Red River HS) and Cavalry wouldn’t be a good idea. I personally think it would be inappropriate and a bit of a slap in the face.

]]> By: PCM http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-67 PCM Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:40:20 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-67 spearman, If UND chooses to go with no nickname, I suspect that people will start calling the university's athletic teams the "NoDaks." Sportswriters and sportscasters will assign a name to UND's athletic teams if we don't adopt one ourselves. Maybe "NoDaks" isn't objectionable, but I'd much prefer that if a label is put on our athletes, it's one of our own choosing. spearman,

If UND chooses to go with no nickname, I suspect that people will start calling the university’s athletic teams the “NoDaks.” Sportswriters and sportscasters will assign a name to UND’s athletic teams if we don’t adopt one ourselves. Maybe “NoDaks” isn’t objectionable, but I’d much prefer that if a label is put on our athletes, it’s one of our own choosing.

]]> By: spearman http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-64 spearman Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:22:17 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-64 johndahl, Both Roughrider and cavalry are reminders of the imperial forces that committed genocide on the native peoples of this region. Teddy R. was the prime example of an imperial presidency. If I were native I would be insulted to have those terms juxtaposed with the word Dakota. No nickname allows the UND teams to be referred to as North Dakota and the "North Dakotas" simultaneously. The plural noun "Dakotas" seems to be an appropriate nickname and also doesn't clash at all with the emblems in the Ralph. It's already the state name so how can the NCAA protest. johndahl,
Both Roughrider and cavalry are reminders of the imperial forces that committed genocide on the native peoples of this region. Teddy R. was the prime example of an imperial presidency. If I were native I would be insulted to have those terms juxtaposed with the word Dakota.

No nickname allows the UND teams to be referred to as North Dakota and the “North Dakotas” simultaneously. The plural noun “Dakotas” seems to be an appropriate nickname and also doesn’t clash at all with the emblems in the Ralph. It’s already the state name so how can the NCAA protest.

]]> By: johndahl http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/comment-page-1/#comment-63 johndahl Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:29:28 +0000 http://blog.siouxsports.com/2007/12/02/nokota-state-horse-would-make-ideal-nickname/#comment-63 Not a bad idea - I like the tie to the state. Something like Roughriders might be appropriate for the same reason. Cavalry also seems like a good choice, as it's also seemingly benign, and is quite the opposite from the Sioux name that the tribes seem to find so objectionable. Not a bad idea – I like the tie to the state. Something like Roughriders might be appropriate for the same reason. Cavalry also seems like a good choice, as it’s also seemingly benign, and is quite the opposite from the Sioux name that the tribes seem to find so objectionable.

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