Comments on: Saturday Game React: UND vs. Wisconsin

By: OETKB

OETKB — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:05 +0000

I watched the replay several times too. The Kaip hit wasn’t all that bad, really. He smoked the guy, but did so by hitting him in the soulder, not the head. I thought Kaip’s follow through to the head afterward (when they were both on the ice) was the only “dirty” part of the whole thing.

By: Old Time Hockey

Old Time Hockey — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:43:23 +0000

Hey Donald…………Where you one of those kids that always got smoked at the blueline cause your nose was aimed at the puck? Kaip could have hit the guy alot harder!
Dakota69er…………If YOU think UND was a bunch of goons what did that make Bucky? They punched TJ in the head on 3 different occassions that night and it wasn’t until the third time (after he scored) that it was called. UW also had third man in twice during the scrum that occurred at the end of the game.
Both of your comments are jokes! Most of us that understand the game can tell that you have very little hockey experience. Go away and leave the commentary to those that understand the game!!!!!!!!!

By: Blackheart

Blackheart — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:17:14 +0000

thanks for the posting the vidoe of the Water Bottle incident. Awesome!

Oh, and Donald, go away…

By: Supertrex

Supertrex — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:52:13 +0000

And also, I suspect that in your view it was not “clean play” because the Badger was on the receiving end of the check in question whereas when Turris slashes a guy while another teammate tackles an opposing player from behind, all committed after the whistle, that would be the quintessential Badger definition of acceptable “clean play”…

By: Supertrex

Supertrex — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:16 +0000

Donald, you’re absolutely right, skating with your head down puts you in a vulnerable position which is why we teach SQUIRTS to avoid doing this or risk severe injury in PEEWEES where the checking begins. Afterall, checking a person who is skating with his head down (and separating him from the puck) is a ligitimate hockey hit and is not a penalty.

By: Donald

Donald — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:01:08 +0000

I should add that Kaip had plenty of speed coming around the net and whether he took 1, 2 strides or 3 (or whatever) is meaningless in the context of the play and the hit he delivered. You can quote scripture chapter and verse and find ways to excuse it perhaps but that doesn’t make it a clean play.

By: Donald

Donald — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:57:50 +0000

I don’t believe I implied here (or in the forum) that the Kaip charge was a CFB. What it had in common with the Bina incident though was that a player was in a vulnerable postion and potential serious injury could have been the result.

I also don’t remember saying ANYTHING about who hacked who more during the crap that followed. The refs handled all that hoohaw properly. They didn’t however handle the Kaip charge properly. And regardless of what happened after that hit … it was the spark that created the fire.

It was uncalled for, unecessary and unwarranted in the situation. Kaip was carrying around a chip on his shoulder from earlier incidents (notably the disappointing loss when UND outplayed bucky but lost the night before) and with the game winding down HE CHOSE to put another players well-being at risk.

Feel free to carp about the specifics of what happened after that hit. I’m not in the least concerned about those events. And the only slash I saw from Turris happened after “scrumming” began but that doesn’t mean he didn’t slash someone prior to that. Slashing happens all the time. Brutal charges to players in vulnerable postions don’t happen all the time and they should be addressed.

By: Sioux Me

Sioux Me — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:23:59 +0000

Oh, wait — Turris HAD to “defend” himself (by making a pre-emptive strike?), because Wisconsin won’t play the Sioux again this year, short of one of the NCAA Regionals somewhere. It is too bad there will be no GF series with the BADgers. With their Gopher-style aggression (lead with your hands or elbows, slash, hook and hold, and grab facemasks and/or jump guys from behind — preferably after the whistle) they show their lack of seasoning. Klubertanz’ jump from behind would have gotten him seriously injured — or marked for some time — in any other situation BUT a WCHA series. Unless my TV did not show another set of boards somewhere around Smith, there was nothing wrong with the hit — except that Kaip’s number was visible to Derek Shephard! Big D. was not even going to call a penalty until he saw who it was — or until he heard the Kohl center faithful (or it could have been the little “extra” finish Kaip put in). No Pauko hit, not even close — for those of you who cannot count, one and one-half, possibly two, strides is NOT charging in the NCAA (or bantams).

By: Sioux Me

Sioux Me — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:58:51 +0000

Donald, dakota69er, et al. — Have you heard of a DVR/Tivo? When I reviewed the sequences leading up to the “melee” (3-5 times with the added objectivity of “morning after” assessment) I think Mike Eaves’ childish behavior was because he was embarrassed about the way his Wisconsin players acted! Where to begin? Hmmm… Cross-checking from behind on Oshie/Genoway by Davis Drewiske, followed immediately by a cross-check to the facemask of TJ Oshie by Blake Geoffrion — all because TJ shelfed Connelly and tried his best to avoid contact. That’s a little tough with a stick in your back driving you into the goalie. Earlier, TJ slowed to a stop when Connelly stopped Dunc’s shot and Kyle “Please don’t touch him” Turris promptly cross-checks TJ’s arm. Watch the tape — Kaip COASTED behind the net, took a stride and one-half and delivered a SHOULDER to the unsuspecting Badger. No different than a “look-out” pass and hit in open ice — and Kaip’s hit was parallel to the boards, too. Head down in the corner is no way to go through life! Kyle Turris’ ensuing two-hander to Matt Watkins, followed by his attempted follow-up elbow ended with Matt putting the youngster to the ice — with Kyle Klubertanz then jumping Watkins from behind — CLASSY hockey. Is hitting after the whistle called “Kyling on” in Wisconsin now? I forgot to mention Ford’s jab (spear?) of Phil Lamoureux when the puck was obviously frozen earlier in the game. As far as the melee itself goes, two-on-one’s? Grabbing facemasks from behind? Who is calling whom goons? See you in GF!!! BTW, I wonder if Mike Eaves shares his son’s glass jaw? He could have joined his son prone on the ice and out cold had he actually tried to “engage” Hakstol — who, you will note, was classy enough to shake his head in disbelief and walk away. Get a life, Badger faithful!

By: dakota69er

dakota69er — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:33:56 +0000

Old Hak thought is was the best they played all year, well they did have 90 minutes in penalties. Nobody knows how to GOON it up like the Sioux.